Clickbank Pirate
Posted by admin on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 · 42 Comments 
So I’ve been
skimming through
this month’s
upcoming IM product
list. Same
ol’, same
ol’ mostly.
I’m too lazy
to even write about
most of that. But Clickbank
Pirate has
caught my attention
after all. And
it’s because I
think they have
something really
useful to offer. I
have my concerns
about it too though.
First of all, they
have a great
concept. They too
have noticed what a
poor job most
Clickbank merchants
do when it comes to
providing resources
for affiliates.
You’re
basically on your
own 99% of the time
out there. And
that’s a pity,
because they would
make so much more
money by supporting
their affiliates
properly.
So Soren Jordansen
& Cindy Battye
have taken this fact
to create a product.
They took a great
marketing model that
list building is
and applied it to
several Clickbank
products to offer to
affiliates what the
merchants
don’t. They
have set up turn key
systems, providing
you even hosting and
autoresponders so
all you have to do
is send traffic. And
since everything
else is done
professionally, you
have the best
chances to convert
that traffic that
you could possibly
get. 
Now as I said, I
have my concerns
about it too. First
of all,
there’s only
very limited amount
of these turnkey
systems. They offer
5 on
sign up and 1 every
following month.
That means, there
will be a bunch of
same sites competing
with each other. To
what extent that
problem will grow
depends on how
active other members
will be. But even
having in mind that
most people will do
a sloppy job to
compete, 5 + 1 a
month is a small
enough number to
become a problem I
think.
Another concern I
have is that the
great benefit of not
having to lift a
finger to maintain
the sites and
autoresponders may
turn out to the
worst. What if they
experience technical
difficulties, what
if something else
happens? I for one
am all for as much
control over my
assets as possible,
so I would rather
maintain them
myself.
There’s a
sneaky solution to
both problems,
though. Who prevents
you from copying the
stuff and taking it
over, modifying it
to make it more
unique? Well, I
can’t confirm
if Clickbank Pirate
folks would be ok
with that, but since
we’re becoming
‘Pirates’…
So to conclude, I
gotta say I’m
rather intrigued and
interested in Clickbank
Pirate service.
I don’t recall
other services that
do this exact thing.
There are some PLR
services that partly
cover it, but not
consistently and
with no such
hands-off approach.
It might very well
add some to your
income quite easily,
so I think
it’s worth
checking out.
August 9th, 2009 at 2:56 am
Hey!
I just came across your site – and wanted to address the two concerns that you have.
Oh- firstly, I am Cindy – the Aussie half of the pirate team.
So… We have actually thought of both of those issues – so, here we go:
1) The number of packages. We are aware of the fact that there could well be a problem if too many people are promoting the same product. That is why we have created a LOT, and we also limit it to 200 releases per product. So, members are given a random selection from our archives – it’s extremely rare that any one member will get all of the same packs as a different member. We are also adding in new packages each month, so you will keep getting fresh packages – fresh products – and, hopefully great conversions.
2) The autoresponder stuff. We are running everything through aweber, so – unless they crash, burn and die (which… oh my gosh – pretty much every IM’er on the planet will flip out), we are all safe
John Merrick (our secret other member of the clickbank pirate crew) is a programming genius – and takes care of all our backups etc – he is pretty OCD about it… which is good for all of us.
Hope that answers your q’s!
All the best!
Cindy Battye
August 10th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Yes, I had a look then and am not too sure about it! Seems to be really hyped at the moment tho.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I signed up for ClickBank Pirate and absolutely love it! I’ve been marketing online for 4 years now and never have I come across a package that is so well put together and easy to use – even for inexperienced marketers. The graphics and design are fun and unique and there is a ton of information including videos, training, pre-made splash pages, emails and free memberships to marketing sites where you can learn more about generating traffic. Cindy and Soren did a great job on this one and I could not be more pleased with my (very inexpensive) purchase of Clickbank Pirates
August 28th, 2009 at 5:27 am
Hi Jackie, mind me asking how long have you been using Clickbank Pirate and how is the result that you have gotten so far in terms of list building and sales earned? From CBengine, the product is “seen” from only July09 onwards. I’m not sure its that recent.
Also, do you mind me asking if you have your own list which you send the email articles to your subscriber? Or you rely 100% on their promo tools and traffic channels to build your list.
Pardon the long questions as I just bought the product myself after deciding to give it a try based on its’ more honest than usual salesletter. I have been on it for about a week now using blog, traffic exchange, safelist marketing to build the lists but so far the result left a lot to be desired. Optins conversion is almost non-existent let alone sales earned. I notice there is duplicate content on articles directories already, making it impossible to post their supplied articles on directories like ezine to promote the product. On this aspect, I share the same concern as admin.
I’m starting to wonder if there is already saturation on this product considering the high gravity of the product (300+ as of last counting), making the promo tools and the 5 turnkeys supplied ‘ineffective’. I think I’m going to give it another month to try, before I request for refund.
Come to think of it, Clickbank Pirate creators are smart fellows. Even if customers discontinue their memberships or request for refund, all the subscribers still stay with them and continue to be promoted upon.
Well hope you can share with us your answer on my questions above. Appreciate it.
Cheers
Alex
August 28th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Hi Alex,
To answer some of your questions. Clickbank Pirate was officially released on August 4th, you can still see the announcement on jvnotifypro.com. It was likely added beforehand, but you can see the gravity suddenly jump on the launch day.
To solve the duplicate content problem there’s only one solution – rewrite everything, especially the articles you submit to directories.
And oh by the way, excuse the blatant pitch, but if you submit articles to directories, check out my free auto article submitter http://www.articlesubmissionhelper.com/. It’s completely auto, so the time you’d spend on submitting articles you can spend on rewriting them. And if you feel lazy, it has article spinning option that allows you to specify what percentage of article to return, removing random sentences. Leaving, say, 70% of an article it’s already somewhat different from original.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Hi admin, thanks for the tool. It’s pity that the tool article directory does not have ezine in it.
August 29th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Alex,
You mean ezinearticles? It will have. The only reason it’s not there yet is because I’ve created the tool for my self before I started distributing it, and I treat EZA with extra care. Now I’m adding features and directories all the time, so it will there be very soon.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:38 am
Oh I see, yes I’m refering to ezinearticles which is by far the No 1 article directory online. Thanks.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:50 am
Great review.
@ Alex: Ezinearticles is the number article site to use, thus it takes more caution to work with. They also have like a bazillion categories.
Plus they take extra caution in reviewing their articles before apporving them, more so than 99% of other article sites.
My suggestion is to write a great article, and submit it to Ezinearticles. If it gets approved there, then it should get approved in most other places. They also check for duplicate content.
So get an article approved there FIRST, then submit articles to the rest of the sites.
- Coty Schwabe
Guru Crusher
September 7th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Hi Admin,
I recently purchased CBP after thinking it was the answer to my ‘lazy’ prayers. However i now feel that its not the case. I trust Cindy & Soren as they have relseased some good stuff previously and FREE too! But like what you are thinking, im guessing it wont be long until the arena becomes saturated with duplicate CBP marketing submissions. And just for the record i raised two support tickets weeks ago regarding two faulty squeeze pages and another query but heard nothing back. I definitely dont feel scammed as i already praised Cindy & Soren but the failure to answer my queries together with no sales depsite trying, is fast persuading me to call it a day and perhaps ask for refund.
Keep up the nice blog mate!
Boon
September 10th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Hi there Guru Crusher, yeah agree with you. Ezinearticles is the best place to get our articles posted but its also one of the most crowded place on earth. Its’ really not going to be easy posting articles in there for any category unless its completely self-written.
Which brings me to a question to Admin, hey Admin do let us know if you are updating your submission tool.
Rgds
September 10th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Hey there Boon1, I’m one of the many who purchased CBP as well and I’ve requested and gotten my refund back a week ago.
Like you said, there just isn’t enough turnkey supplied by them to be unique enough for us to promote. Saturation already set in less than 2 weeks the product was launched. Its’ a waste of time to put it blunt.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Yes, I’m updating it. I’ve added new features and now have to iron out some bugs. I’ll release an update very soon.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Alex, well said! Its a shame about CBP as the concept seemed well to begin with, however in reality, as others got involved, the saturation issue was always going to be a big problem. Full marks to Cindy & Soren for trying to make things easier for the affiliate marketers but there would have to be perhaps hundreds of unique turnkey packages to give us a fighting chance
Admin, i like the AShelper tool very much. Please keep us informed of the updates & changes as and when they happen.
Many thanks,
Boon1
September 18th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
I haven’t actually tried CBP but I have recommended it as one of the products I promote because the sales page seems to be on point. I hope it works out
October 11th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
guys good info from you all,i am very new to internet marketing,just finished reading cbp page,thought of reviews and thats how i got here. my question is,is it of any good to new comers like me that have not yet sold a pin online or have u got any advice to offer.pls feel free to do so all is welcome.
October 12th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Hi Victor,
Sure, I think it’s made more with newcomers in mind. All you have to do is learn how to get traffic and you don’t have to worry how to create a good landing page and copy – that’s a good way to start learning. It’s not perfect, but doesn’t cost an arm and leg too.
October 12th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
admin, thanks so much for ur advice.i think i will give it a go,just want to get my hands dirty and useful online thanks once more.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
I like your concept of CBP, but I am a little concerned though…that saturation might be an issue.
What is your take on that? I am new to IM, just do not want to waste time and money on a program that will not work.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
The saturation will always be a concern, but now with over 2 months after the release I’m pretty happy to see the CB Pirate guys haven’t abandoned it and they keep adding new packages. There’s been a lot added and it will be going only for the better if they keep it up.
October 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Thanks a lot for the information, will join CBP.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Notice the one thing you do need to add is traffic. If we all had heaps of that, 98% of the battle would be won, which is why they are promoting this very system to get traffic for themselves. I paid nearly 2k for mentoring and “knowledge” to another company and guess what? I worked it all out without their dismal input. Use the money for advertising to get the traffic because all this other stuff is useless without it. Any fool can set up a website and go get affiliate links and banners and all that other stuff like autoresponders etc. Find me a pirate system to get megatons of traffic, that I will buy!
October 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
You always need traffic, but Tim, not any fool can set up a website especially one that converts. I can say any fool can get traffic, because it comes trivial to me, but we all know it doesn’t come trivial to everyone.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Hi,
I have never done affiliate marketing but I have been looking around and trying to learn what I can.
I have recently come across CB Pirate and it does look interesting, However I guess I agree to an extent with Tim.
I don’t think that any fool can build a website because I built my own website, I am not a fool and it was hard work with lots of learning curves. So now I have a pretty cool website and but no traffic, that to me is the hard part, I have had to employ an SEO company to get the traffic for me. (my site is not an affiliate site).
I have seen tonnes of hyped up affiliate programs and it all comes back to getting that traffic. I have spent several hundred dollars on tools and e-books in an attempt to get traffic to my website.
Admin with all due respect if getting traffic is easy could you please enlighten me. Because if the getting traffic was easy I would be signing up for CB Pirate and a few other affiliate programs right now.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Hi Twety,
Please don’t get me wrong, I said it with a little sarcasm as an answer to Tim’s also sarcastic claim that any fool could build a website. Yes, getting traffic is relatively easy to me personally, because I know how to do it, but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t take time, effort and money.
The bottom line is, the site needs to be built, the traffic needs to be gotten. CB Pirate covers the former, you have to cover the latter. And it definitely doesn’t mean that there’s no value in getting a pre-built website and content just because you don’t get traffic along with it.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Hi,
On rereading I do get our sarcasm now. As I said building a web site is hard work especially if you are a nurse not a web designer.
As I said I have spent a lot of money on tools etc… and all that did was confuse me.
is there a system or education material that you would recommend that can help with generating traffic? I realize that what I wrote before sounded sarcastic also, it was not meant to be, I really do wish to be enlightened.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
I can recommend Ed Dale’s 30 day challenge – it’s free and it’s very well presented. A good place to start for sure.
You have to understand one thing though, there are a lot of traffic generation methods and you can get traffic with most of them more or less. But that doesn’t automatically mean you will get sales. Everything must fit in, it should be an integral part of your marketing plan. You need to know very well what kind of people you want on your site, what places they are at, and how to attract them. In other words, if all those people walked by your store and your competitor’s next to you, what would make them buy from you and not form your competitor.
When you have your unique selling proposition it all comes down to getting your message out in all places in your niche you can possibly can – forums, articles, social networks, ppc, ads on other sites, and so on. People aren’t blind folded on the Internet, and even if they come to your site they may not buy if your competitors have better deals. But if you have the best deals around, your customers will become your best affiliates.
I’ve written an article about forums in particular – http://www.madimmarketing.com/internet-marketing/the-best-internet-marketing-tip/
This comes from my experience of how important it is to have a strong USP and getting your message out in front of the right people (which isn’t that hard to find). Not as much to the volume of traffic, but the amount of conversions.
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 am
Thank you for that, that is very helpful
October 23rd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I had a look a the 30 day challenge, and it looks quite promising,. I was comforted to hear someone with an Aussie Accent.
Thanks for your help, I appreciate it..
The rest of what you are saying is also very consistent with all the marketing information that I have read. So thanks for the very solid info.
October 28th, 2009 at 9:43 am
I have looked at many sites and not come across such a site as yours that tells everyone everything they need to know. I have added you to my bookmarks, can anyone else suggest other related topics that I can search for to find out more information?
November 17th, 2009 at 4:39 am
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November 20th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Hi all. does anyone know about how much money it would take to make a serious marketing campagin to make cbp really work? ty!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:48 am
CBP is nothing different from any well made affiliate campaign. That means, for instance, if you use PPC to drive traffic, you can realistically expect an ROI of 100% – that is to make $1,000, you have to spend $1,000 (be prepared to make less or even lose some until you optimize the campaign).
If you do SEO by yourself, it will take time more than money, unless you hire a professional SEO (which I wouldn’t recommend for an affiliate offer – they cost an arm and leg and the ROI will suck).
Article marketing perhaps makes most sense in terms of ROI. You can outsource keyword optimized articles and post to the popular directories. You can play volume vs. targeting and SEO here too, which means you can either buy as many articles as you can without worrying about promoting them, or pick a few good keywords and promote those articles to push them up in search engines. The exact numbers are hard to predict, but as a general rule article marketing has a significantly better ROI in terms of money spent.
I’m less familiar with other marketing methods (such as social media, buying banners a.k.a media buys, etc.), but the same principle applies.
December 15th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Thank you for your review of ClickBank Pirate. We appreciate you sharing your opinion and doing the research needed to fairly evaluate the affiliate marketing medium. We have seen fit to link to this article in our independent ClickBank Pirate Reviews section. Anyhow, keep up the good work spreading truth.
December 20th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
almost 3 months with cbp still not sold any thing.what else to do.admin pls which article software would u recommend, easy to use and understand
December 20th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
http://www.articlesubmissionhelper.com/ – I think it’s easy enough to use, and it’s free.
January 20th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Hi All,
I was looking around the web to learn more about a system I have been working on. I have discovered that I have built a ‘poor mans’ Clickbank Pirate. I dont have all the features mentioned and I don’t promise to keep your links in the autoresponder messages forever. But it might be worth a look. Oh Yea, I don’t charge anything either.
I don’t supply any articles so you need to create your own.
Admin- Hope I have not broken your rules here. Please place a link to my site if you approve.
Mike
March 31st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
I tried cbp for 3 months. there were so many other people with the same ads that I was using that I had a lot of trouble getting sign-ups. I managed to get 1, that’s it. So needless to say I stopped cbp. I figured after 3 months of advertising as they suggested I should have more than 1 person!
SandyRuth
April 10th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
I bought CP last August of 2009 and although at this point have 98 conversions, I don’t have 1 single sale! I am considering quitting next month unless I start to see some sales.
AnabelleAl
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Hi, everybody in here!
Firstly: this is about a very interesting and tuitional subject, the Clickbank Pirate program. I´ ve been considering go for this program, or at least give it a try for about 1-2 months, now – but when I am now reading the two – three last giving comments ( about making no SINGLE sale/ salecommission for a hold month ) I am becoming a bit uncertain and unsure what/ how to do now?
Sounds as said a bit alarming and noticable that a few people doesn´t earn any money with it. Well, doesn´t sounds totally comfortable and worth the investment to me. So, I am still wondering: is it really good/ efficiant enough then? Well, certainly I am already now involved in a several possible moneymakingconcepts ( like using/ buying different affiliateprograms, being a member of different moneymakingcommissioncommunities, participating in moneytrading at Forexforfree.com, doing paidservices, participating paid panelgroups, completing entry inputing e.t.c – simply in order to try and get aquantant with as many moneymakingconcept as possible ). Well, to be totally honest and sincere: I AM EVERYWHERE WHERE IT´S ABLE MAKING MONEY – HONESTLY BOTH FOR FUN ( VERSATILITY ) AND NOT LEAST BECAUSE NEEDING THE ADDITIONAL MONEY I CAN EARN/ GAIN.
Well, the only way to get to know about the potential in EVERYTHING is to try it/ them as said, even sometimes by taking the risk loosing money. Unfortunately you maybe have to take risks, and maybe even loose and jeopardy some money on the way on scammers in the beggining, in order to find out which concepts being the best FOR YOU ( your own taste, profitpotential and maybe even your own suitability for it ). Or, maybe more correctly: IT´S UP TO YOU/ ANYBODY HOW MUCH RISKS YOU WOULD LIKE TO AND ARE READY TO TAKE/ JEOPARDY DURING THIS WAY – however it takes investments, perseverance, patience and as said MAYBE even some financial risktaking, before you will find anything suitable for you ( your interests, abilities, talents or what ever ).
But, as said again: if you are persevere, patient and disciplined enough it´s probably just a matter of a time before you both find anything suiting your policy and generating you the money continously/ resudialy. So, my advice is: be versatile, trying as many different moneymakingconcepts as possible, to find your nische/ nisches and NOT LEAST PATIENT. Don´ t always and emmidiately expect profits/ revenues over a night – it could take a while before the money starts generating. Anyway and however: this is MY OWN little way to find/ figure out ways earning money on the net – when we all are newbies in the beggining. I am anyway however sure that I will find some moneymakingconcept ( one or a few doesn´t matter ) wich I´ll be financially satisfied with. IF THERE IS ANYWHERE TIME IS A VIRTUE IS IN THIS BUSINESS.
July 14th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
I think CB Pirate is a great turn key system. Like anything else, you have to work at it. Follow everything they set out for you and do some extra SEO yourself. You need to get good page rankings for your offers if you want to succeed. There is no money for nothing. Yes they are selling you on a system and profiting from it. They have put in lots of time and money to perfect CB Pirate. You need to put in the time too! You are already putting in the money to buy the program… not put in maximum effort! Do what they say and be patient. Results will come if you work at it.
I would say good luck but I don’t believe in luck… Luck = Preparation + Opportunity
August 9th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Looks like a great product, if you like click bank. Its always ruff to jump on the band wagon and try to hope that you can ride the gravy train, but seems like this product will help!